Why didn't Henge of Denravi make it as a city? - Page 2 - Guild Wars Forums

xxSilhouette · Dec 10, 2006, 04:45 AM // 04:45

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Originally Posted by Shaden

Actually, there is that helm you can obtain here from the armor trader. So, it is special, but only slightly. But yes, those are pretty much the reasons it never fully developed. To bad Maguuma areas are my favorite places in Prophecies, it's quite lonely.

Well i didn't know that, My warrior doesnt show her helm, which is why i probley never noticed that or payed attention to it. Still, i just think beacuse there isn't a whole lot there, or a real reason for being their, is why its so empty.

Also one of my favorite spots. i think its a gorgeous place. But, at least with it being empty, I can get good SS's there without other characters in the background

Malice Black · Dec 10, 2006, 06:18 AM // 06:18

I use to conduct most of my trades there. Nice quiet place with no trade spam.

Former Ruling · Dec 10, 2006, 07:02 AM // 07:02

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Lion's Arch served as an entry point to PvP arenas (before the isles). It was the first place to offer sigs of capture. It had very strong historic meaning from beta events. It was the non-noob city compared to Ascalon. And it served as primary staging area for all the events.

That made me remember a "beginner's guide" to Guild Wars I read before buying it. I think it was on this site lol.

It described Lion's Arch as a point in the game that you were GOOD if you got there, using sentences like "You can progress through the long string of missions, or you can travel through some very hard cave areas with enemies that even level20's fear!" or something like that. :\

ischuros · Dec 10, 2006, 09:57 AM // 09:57

So LA and Ascalon made simply because of their position in the story line. Droks and LA were major trading posts, but since the new chapters have come out, Droks has declined in importance. LA is then the only real 'city' left in Tyria, because it is a port to other chapters. What, then, is the capital city of the world of Guild Wars? is it Kodash Bazar(sp), or Kaineng, or is it still LA?

mrcake · Dec 10, 2006, 10:28 AM // 10:28

The jungle just plain sucks and most people avboid it, everyone passess through amnoon but once they get to augry rock that is where the majority of people gather for hydra farming, queen farming and the rest of the desert is accessible from there.. at least it used to be it's probably just as empty now lol

Dawnspire · Dec 10, 2006, 10:34 AM // 10:34

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Originally Posted by mrcake

The jungle just plain sucks and most people avboid it, everyone passess through amnoon but once they get to augry rock that is where the majority of people gather for hydra farming, queen farming and the rest of the desert is accessible from there.. at least it used to be it's probably just as empty now lol

Nobody likes the life pods. Critical failure for the jungle.

Maria The Princess · Dec 10, 2006, 10:43 AM // 10:43

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Originally Posted by ischuros

So LA and Ascalon made simply because of their position in the story line. Droks and LA were major trading posts, but since the new chapters have come out, Droks has declined in importance. LA is then the only real 'city' left in Tyria, because it is a port to other chapters. What, then, is the capital city of the world of Guild Wars? is it Kodash Bazar(sp), or Kaineng, or is it still LA?

LA is the capital mainly cuz itsin the first chapter

Droks and ascalon are still trade centers, but secondary. i wouldnt say that LA is the only "city" left

GODh · Dec 10, 2006, 01:45 PM // 13:45

Well, since the release of Nightfall even Droknar is looking like a ghosttown lately (especially after midnight)...

Personally i like the jungle, but i also remember that i hated those poisonous spiders when i came there with my 1st character (elementalist with no heal :S)... but after finishing the game with 3 chars i didnt wanted to do every quest anymore. The easiest way to do that is to goto Sanctum Cay from ToA (so skipping the whole Jungle area). I think many players feel the same about that...

MegaMouse · Dec 10, 2006, 02:25 PM // 14:25

As far as Amnoon Oasis is concerned that is a place that you have to go to. You automaticaly get dropped there from Sanctum Cay's mission and that is the first town in the desert that you visit. That makes it a portal of sorts in you must go there to ascend. Certian quests cannot be done without going through the desert and that is a big reason for it. If you are a Tyrian you must go through the desert or you will not be able to get into UW or FOW due to you not ascending.

Mega Mouse

ischuros · Dec 10, 2006, 03:23 PM // 15:23

That leads to another question of mine. If you ascend your Tyrian born in Cantha (Wen no Shu) are they ascened? Can they do UW and FoW?

Griff Mon · Dec 10, 2006, 04:52 PM // 16:52

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Originally Posted by Faer

Don't forget though, you do have to pass through Amnoon if you wish to Ascend, get your last 30 attribute points, and cap certain elite skills.

But that's all it really is... Just another minor stop in the long road to nowhere...

Not any more, an Elonian Character (who has Prophecies on their account) can go to the Crystal Desert Overlook portal and get teleported directly to the desert without ever setting foot in Sanctum Cay or Amoon Oasis.

Griff Mon · Dec 10, 2006, 04:54 PM // 16:54

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Originally Posted by Faer

Don't forget though, you do have to pass through Amnoon if you wish to Ascend, get your last 30 attribute points, and cap certain elite skills.

But that's all it really is... Just another minor stop in the long road to nowhere...

Not any more, any character that comes from Elona (who has Prophecies on their account) can go to the Crystal Desert Overlook portal and get teleported directly to the desert without ever setting foot in Sanctum Cay or Amoon Oasis.

Unheard Echo · Dec 10, 2006, 05:24 PM // 17:24

Where is this Crystal Desert Overlook portal? I don't recall seeing or hearing of it before.

ischuros · Dec 10, 2006, 05:49 PM // 17:49

I think it is in the north of the Desolation. Tyria and Elona are part of the same landmass, so it would make sense for it to be there.

Carth` · Dec 10, 2006, 07:09 PM // 19:09

For HoD, 2 reasons.

1. The jungle is the least played part of the game, people hated it and it is easy to skip the whole area with a simple and cheap run, or even fighting with henchmen for 20 mins.

2. Storage was a 2 min walk from all the other services. Worst designed city ever. It was quicker to map to another outpost and get what you want from storage, then come back, than walking to it in HoD.

For Amnoon Oasis:

Augury Rock was a centralised outpost that had enough services, and was the more convenient desert location. When you arrive in Amnoon Oasis, generally the first thing you want to do is get to Augury Rock because that is the main hub for the desert through which trade and runners go.

Fluim · Dec 10, 2006, 07:47 PM // 19:47

Henge of Denravi didn't make it as a city because of a couple of reasons:
- No quests start here. Only the main quest to get to Riverside Province, In ascalon, LA are lots of quest which can be done
- There's nothing else for us to do there. No quests in the surrounding area's like Tangle Root and Dry Top. it's empty, not much excitement there.
- No farming here. At droks, before the update, people get powerlvled at farming Trolls.
- The Sanctum Cay Run

As a poster before me said, Ascalon and LA and Droks too are places people "can't avoid". Much player travel rom kaineng center to LA, and a lot of new players get to ascalon just after they left Pre. these are the reasons i think HoD didn't become a grat city like droks or LA

Jeff Highwind · Dec 10, 2006, 07:57 PM // 19:57

Henge also died due to the loss of the +5e weapons.

Griff Mon · Dec 10, 2006, 08:31 PM // 20:31

The portal to the Crystal desert is in the far northwest corner of the Elona Map. You have to be near game end to get there, and you need to be able to ride the worms to get there as well. The portal is two way, you can return via the Crystal Desert. It drops you off in the Arid Sea on the south perimeter. If you can't ride worms or don't have the right game account, the gatekeeper will not let you through. There is even a quest in Elona that requires that you go to the Crystal Desert and pass through Augrey Rock.

Dec 10, 2006, 06:18 AM // 06:18	#22
Malice Black Site Legend Join Date: Oct 2005	I use to conduct most of my trades there. Nice quiet place with no trade spam. __________________ Old Skool '05

Dec 10, 2006, 09:57 AM // 09:57	#24
ischuros Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ireland Profession: N/Me	So LA and Ascalon made simply because of their position in the story line. Droks and LA were major trading posts, but since the new chapters have come out, Droks has declined in importance. LA is then the only real 'city' left in Tyria, because it is a port to other chapters. What, then, is the capital city of the world of Guild Wars? is it Kodash Bazar(sp), or Kaineng, or is it still LA?

Dec 10, 2006, 10:28 AM // 10:28	#25
mrcake Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Profession: W/N	The jungle just plain sucks and most people avboid it, everyone passess through amnoon but once they get to augry rock that is where the majority of people gather for hydra farming, queen farming and the rest of the desert is accessible from there.. at least it used to be it's probably just as empty now lol

Dec 10, 2006, 01:45 PM // 13:45	#28
GODh Jungle Guide Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: The Netherlands Guild: BFTW and DLRR	Well, since the release of Nightfall even Droknar is looking like a ghosttown lately (especially after midnight)... Personally i like the jungle, but i also remember that i hated those poisonous spiders when i came there with my 1st character (elementalist with no heal :S)... but after finishing the game with 3 chars i didnt wanted to do every quest anymore. The easiest way to do that is to goto Sanctum Cay from ToA (so skipping the whole Jungle area). I think many players feel the same about that...

Dec 10, 2006, 02:25 PM // 14:25	#29
MegaMouse Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: south mississippi Guild: Warriors Of Melos WOM Profession: E/N	As far as Amnoon Oasis is concerned that is a place that you have to go to. You automaticaly get dropped there from Sanctum Cay's mission and that is the first town in the desert that you visit. That makes it a portal of sorts in you must go there to ascend. Certian quests cannot be done without going through the desert and that is a big reason for it. If you are a Tyrian you must go through the desert or you will not be able to get into UW or FOW due to you not ascending. Mega Mouse

Dec 10, 2006, 03:23 PM // 15:23	#30
ischuros Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ireland Profession: N/Me	That leads to another question of mine. If you ascend your Tyrian born in Cantha (Wen no Shu) are they ascened? Can they do UW and FoW?

Dec 10, 2006, 05:24 PM // 17:24	#33
Unheard Echo Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Guild: [LBS] Profession: W/	Where is this Crystal Desert Overlook portal? I don't recall seeing or hearing of it before.

Dec 10, 2006, 05:49 PM // 17:49	#34
ischuros Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ireland Profession: N/Me	I think it is in the north of the Desolation. Tyria and Elona are part of the same landmass, so it would make sense for it to be there.

Dec 10, 2006, 07:09 PM // 19:09	#35
Carth` Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2006	For HoD, 2 reasons. 1. The jungle is the least played part of the game, people hated it and it is easy to skip the whole area with a simple and cheap run, or even fighting with henchmen for 20 mins. 2. Storage was a 2 min walk from all the other services. Worst designed city ever. It was quicker to map to another outpost and get what you want from storage, then come back, than walking to it in HoD. For Amnoon Oasis: Augury Rock was a centralised outpost that had enough services, and was the more convenient desert location. When you arrive in Amnoon Oasis, generally the first thing you want to do is get to Augury Rock because that is the main hub for the desert through which trade and runners go.

Dec 10, 2006, 07:47 PM // 19:47	#36
Fluim Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: E/Me	Henge of Denravi didn't make it as a city because of a couple of reasons: - No quests start here. Only the main quest to get to Riverside Province, In ascalon, LA are lots of quest which can be done - There's nothing else for us to do there. No quests in the surrounding area's like Tangle Root and Dry Top. it's empty, not much excitement there. - No farming here. At droks, before the update, people get powerlvled at farming Trolls. - The Sanctum Cay Run As a poster before me said, Ascalon and LA and Droks too are places people "can't avoid". Much player travel rom kaineng center to LA, and a lot of new players get to ascalon just after they left Pre. these are the reasons i think HoD didn't become a grat city like droks or LA

Dec 10, 2006, 07:57 PM // 19:57	#37
Jeff Highwind Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: Grenth's Rejects [GR] Profession: R/Mo	Henge also died due to the loss of the +5e weapons.

Dec 10, 2006, 08:31 PM // 20:31	#38
Griff Mon Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In the Elfen Forests of Washington State Guild: Damage Radius Profession: N/	The portal to the Crystal desert is in the far northwest corner of the Elona Map. You have to be near game end to get there, and you need to be able to ride the worms to get there as well. The portal is two way, you can return via the Crystal Desert. It drops you off in the Arid Sea on the south perimeter. If you can't ride worms or don't have the right game account, the gatekeeper will not let you through. There is even a quest in Elona that requires that you go to the Crystal Desert and pass through Augrey Rock.